Yomega Crossfire

[live for today]

Previous thread here: http://extremespin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=111
Mod discussion: http://extremespin.org/forum/showthread.php?p=2997

"Squish" demo video: http://www.yomega.com/crossfire/squish.MPG
Official site: http://www.yomega.com/crossfire/


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i like it i played with two at MER they just need some normal tinking around with and they play really good it was actually alot better than i expected they dont bend alot and stuff like i though they were gonna after hearing about em. they are worth to money, 1ce they're up at ES.

[Tommy Gun]

This is the best Yomega yo-yo to date.

They really nailed most points on this one! I've been playing with it for the last couple days because I wanted to write a full review. Skip to the end for the Bottom Line, or keep reading for the full review.

Gap Width: First of all, you need to know that it has four spacers, all different sizes--3, 5, 6, and 7. I think it comes with the 3 and 5 around the bearing (the other two are in the sides). So obviously the first thing I did was switch to the largest, the 6 and 7, because I like my yo-yos unresponsive. The spacer feature is great because the gap will be consistent, unlike the yo-yos that allow you to unscrew them a little bit for a wider gap (even though you can shim those, this is built-in).

Response: It uses a smooth rubberish disc for response...it's just part of the yo-yo, not a separate pad or anything. It works great! (I bind since the gap is set to the largest.) I'm a fan of o-ring response, so this is similar. It's very smooth on the string, and returns with an easy bind.

Size: This is my main criticism. It's like they decided to make it bigger, but in the wrong direction! Compared to the X-Con, it's about half a centimeter larger in diameter, and half a centimeter smaller in width! This is obviously personal preference, but I love the X-Con size (which is fairly close to an FHZ size). Some people may like the size though.

Extra Features: Okay, so the big hype around this yo-yo (as discussed in another thread) is the "squish" feature (officially called the "soft-core system"). The halves of the Crossfire are plastic, but the middles contain two layers of rubber stuff (one of which is the response). Then on the very outside is another flat plastic piece to keep it tight with the axle. The rubber enables the yo-yo to "bend" if you squeeze the halves together on one side, or even flatten completely (so there is ZERO gap)!

A couple things I was wondering before I actually played with it: One, will the halves stay parallel? If not, there will be MAJOR problems. Two, is it really even needed? I've never broken an axle.

Well, so far...it mostly works. The rubber is tough enough that it pretty much retains its shape, but will still bend if squeezed. It won't bend just from doing tricks with it, it's tough. Just from being in my pocket, it's been fine, so you probably don't have to worry about it bending on its own. From testing it, if you just squeeze one side, it might stay angled a little bit. If you "flatten" it, the gap will get a little smaller! However, it's easy to fix by just pulling the halves apart gently, and it will go back to normal. I don't know how well this will last in the long run, but it seems like it'll be fine.

As for whether it's actually needed, it's a nice feature. It's probably not something any of the hardcore players will need, but for kids who have messy rooms and leave their stuff lying all over the place, it makes a lot of sense. Anyone (parents) can step on it and it will be fine! This makes it a fantastic beginner's yo-yo, especially because of how well it plays! It would also be a good yo-yo to throw in the bottom of your backpack and not worry about.

I should also mention that the yo-yo is pretty easy to take apart (you need to take it completely apart to change the spacers around), but it won't fall apart just from opening it. This means it'll be fine for beginners, as long as they don't lose the bearing or inside spacers.

Grinding: It's smooth plastic, but somehow seems to "stick" a little bit. It's pretty humid here right now, but Freehands still seem to grind better. The shape also isn't as rounded as it could be, which might also make grinds harder to do. It has no rim lip, so inner rim grinds are impossible.

Bottom Line:

+ Adjustable gap using spacers
+ "Squish" feature (soft-core system) that works well enough
+ Great response system
+ Good Price/Value
+/- Shape and size
- Bad Grinds

For advanced players, 4 out of 5 because of the not-great-grinding-ability, and shape.
For beginners, an enthusiastic 5 out of 5! It's a great price for a yo-yo that is extremely durable, and has a response system you'll never have to change!

Other Notes: It'll be interesting to see what modders do with this (if anything). If you can cut the diameter down in size a bit and round it off, it might rule (but that could be a lot of work). There are also so many parts you could modify, including the rubber response--it might be easy to recess or something.

[live for today]

well i cant sleep its too hot here.
but anyways i got one of these today for my birthday and i have to agree it is the best yomega. it can be totally unresponsive just by putting in the bigger spacers, which are stored inside the yoyo, which rules. it is pretty indestructible. it actually suicides very well opposite to what i would have though based on the look and feel of the response system. its grinds better than the average rubber yoyo but not as good as your average plastic yoyo, i may try to sand mine and see if that helps. this thing is just great for any skill level. they are cheap too and anyone that was a fan of the hyperwarp heavy wing will love this.

[kinopah]

got one yesterday. a gift from a student. early x-mas for me. i thought it would pretty much suck. it's huge and kind of a seasick green. it has about 50 pieces.

it was very responsive. i switched to the widest gap setting. it rules.
it's the quietest yo-yo i own. one of my students refers to it as "crazy ninja stealth yo-yo", which is apt. sleeps well. binds well. can't grind for crap, but i have other yo's to do that. i found doc flops to be harder than normal with this yo-yo. not sure why.

for as heavy as it is, it's not too wide. hops and whips feel like they should be easier. it's still a great and really unique yo-yo for the price. i'd recommend it to anyone who can get it for free like me. actually, knowing what i do now, i'd buy it. i might reshape it, but i'll play it stock for a while first.

[HEN73]

Grabbed this yo about a week ago, its my first. Cleaned and deshielded. Has a decent and very quiet sleeper compared to my sons hyperwarp wing don't have anything else to compare it to. I will say that it is pretty heavy and slippery when trying to catch it as the yo returns to your hand. Also it touched the ground while sleeping once and went into pieces everywhere. You have to put blue loctite on the threads. Cost 26 bucks at local hobby store. I would rather have a lyn fury with dorthy for a few dollars more.

[AiDs]

easily the best yomega ever made
got it as soon as it came out
havent regretted it since

[gregleo]

Originally Posted by live for today

well i cant sleep its too hot here.
but anyways i got one of these today for my birthday and i have to agree it is the best yomega. it can be totally unresponsive just by putting in the bigger spacers, which are stored inside the yoyo, which rules. it is pretty indestructible. it actually suicides very well opposite to what i would have though based on the look and feel of the response system. its grinds better than the average rubber yoyo but not as good as your average plastic yoyo, i may try to sand mine and see if that helps. this thing is just great for any skill level. they are cheap too and anyone that was a fan of the hyperwarp heavy wing will love this.

I'm a big fan of the HWHW. I will have to get this one now.

[Jayyo]

Yeah. The crossfire is an amazing yoyo. Kinda fun for 4A too!

[ABBIE28]

sounds good to me

[onedef1]

Welcome to ES. Please pay attention to the posting dates.

[Joshinator]

Welcome to ES, Abbie!

Since you're new here and this was your first post, I'll give you a little tip. Check the date of the last post in a thread, and try not to resurrect threads that are more than a few weeks old unless there's something useful in it. In this case, the last post was in 2007. It's a common rookie mistake; I did it all the time when I was new here, until someone finally told me to stop! But yeah, it bugs some people. Other than that, enjoy your stay!

EDIT: Sorry for taking your role, Buck! You posted while I was typing. Tip #2: listen to the Moderators. They're smart

[boneybone]

I use my Crossfire as a looper mostly but it's pretty good for 1A too, just a little bit bricky...

Too heavy for me but couple of times a year, I pick it up and have fun with it. It's an awkward experience.

There.